R1200RS + R1250RS Forum
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I look at it as a Mazda MX5/Miata type product. I can be an excellent all-rounder for someone solo riding that doesn't put that much emphasis on touring, it can serve an amateur rider on track days, and it's a manageable daily.
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Zitat von Valks im Beitrag #16 yes, but you are half the age of the vast majority of the motorcycle buying demographic in the English speaking world are sports bikes selling in the eastern end of the Med?
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Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #17Zitat von Valks im Beitrag #16 There is a stable amount of them on the road (new bikes) such as the CBR650R's, Ninja 650's, and new GSX-8R show up now and then. The R7 is also adopted in decent numbers since its release. The MT-07 and MT-09 are extremely common you'll never do a weekend tour without running into a bunch of them - solo riders mostly who might take on to the R9 for more visual appeal if nothing else. The new high $$$ liter bikes are rare but you do see them - BMW S1000RR, Panigales, R1's... That being said there is a large used market with older R1, GSXR 1000 and Honda Fireblades and they are far more frequent than the aforementioned new liter bikes, this comes with the stigma of usually being new or beginner riders buying them used for the cool factor and ending up in the bleaker pages of local newspapers. The motorcycle culture and a fair share of it on sport(y) bikes is quite strong along the Austra-Slovenia-Croatia line, Italy and Czechia included.
Year-round riding enthusiast i.e. seasonal motorcycle popsicle.
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Zitat von Valks im Beitrag #18 The soft sport bikes seem to have a following in the UK. Makers seem to be keen to make bikes A2 compliant (intermediate 47bhp riding licence category for younger riders over 19 years) either by design or offering restrictor kits. I think a number of younger people get the A2 licence but when things like marriages and independent living come along they ditch the bike and do not seem to progress to a full licence. The softer sporty bikes over 47bhp are selling, so 1000SX (Ninja), Superdukes, MT09, CB650, GSXS800/1000 and RS660 but in much smaller numbers compared to adventure and retro bikes. Your Panigales, Fireblades and S1000RR is an ever shrinking market and many are just bought as track toys where their full performance can be exploited.
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Stefano Manzi will ride the new Yamaha YZF-R9 in World Supersport in 2025: |
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Fri Oct 25, 2024 9:47 pm (Last edited: Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:27 pm)
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R9 in FIM World Supersport next year (as noted in previous post)...new article just out in Road Racing World about how this transpired. Quite a lot of high quality stuff in the R9 street version for the price ($12,500)...expect high demand. Should be a good second bike to complement the RS (if you enjoy the twisties). |
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"Screeeechhhhhh....!" (the sound of brakes being applied heavily). Yamaha's YZF-R9, which I was considering for purchase and was due for delivery to dealers in March of this year (2025), is now expected to be delayed until Q3. |
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Supply chain shortages according to this letter in a Reddit post. Maybe they are selling shedloads of the fully loaded, high profit, Tracer GT+ and using up all of the CP3 engines they can make? Maybe suppliers have put them on stop as they have not paid bills? Maybe a supplier has gone bust? Maybe China has interrupted the supply of components from Taiwan?
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Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #23 You're right, wessie, about the times being uncertain. Half the people in the US are going nutty about our current situation, and the other half was already nuts. The R9 fanfare was pretty breathless, and there was a lot of interest in the bike. Delaying it until Q3 puts it into the end of the riding season. Perhaps it is simply a "supply chain" matter, as the letter indicates, but with an expected initial delivery date of March, it seems a little late to be discovering they can't get crucial parts. Taking a pass on the R9... |
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Hi all, how are we all doing? |
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Zitat von Bunter im Beitrag #25 I'm first in line for a blue R9, but may let it go as I don't feel like buying any bike in the fall, which is when the R9 seems to be coming. Had heard about the frame issue, but not the TPS. Too bad Yamaha had to hype the damn thing before this happened...doesn't reflect well on the company, or the bike. |
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I've got my R9 at the end of May and after a little body break in am now very happy with it. The riding position is considerably more sporty than the bike I had after my 2016 R1200RS, a 2020 Aprilia RS660. The R9 also makes the Aprilia look quite over priced. The main issues I have with the R9 is overly intrusive ABS when on track and no comfort seat option but I'll wear cycling shorts for long trips. |
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