RE: Merged thread: bye bye Brembo

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#16 | RE: Merged thread: bye bye Brembo datum

Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:13 am

Zitat von Elmer J Fudd im Beitrag #1
From BMW UK Website, accessories section

Change to the brake system
Starting on 01/12/2020, the vehicle shown here is expected to be delivered with a brake system from another manufacturer (possibly with different appearance) instead of the Brembo brand brake system.

Interesting.....

Great .. crap colours and crap brakes

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#17 | RE: Changing from Brembo? datum

Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:31 pm

Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #13
Zitat von Elmer J Fudd im Beitrag #12
Sorry, I thought that as this is an R1250RS forum that it would have been obvious that it was the R1250RS.

When I saw the date I thought it was Dec 1, 2020.
I forgot you guys use a backwards calendar :)

I could not survive over there with everyone on the wrong side of the road, not knowing how far to the next town and not knowing the date :) :)

Ah, the Ex Colonials; can't spell, write dates or measure things properly....even the elections are over complicated as a vote isn't actually a vote for who you want to win. The brave new world.

Life would be boring if we were all the same.

We are similar when popping over to mainland Europe; changing to metric units is simple enough on the bike, though three or four different languages in a day is sometimes a tad confusing. The side of the road is more of an issue and you need to concentrate, especially when on unmarked quiet roads.

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#18 | RE: Changing from Brembo? datum

Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:14 pm

Zitat von Stevie996 im Beitrag #5
I have just seen in the BMW website the following, are they mad😳

Servo brakes on a motorbike, there's a mad idea! Ah, silly me, it was one of BMW's earlier solutions to a non existent problem.

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#19 | RE: Changing from Brembo? datum

Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:40 pm

Zitat von Ali-bear im Beitrag #15
Can't really blame Brembo for trying to make money. Seems every other bike out there is using their calipers. I'm not a marketing expert but I suspect their business makes more sense at the premium low-volume end.

If you are looking for the high-volume, less-premium, end of the Brembo brand, you can check out their ByBre brand brakes. Those brakes are made in India by a Brembo subsidiarity and are used on many Indian-manufactured motorcycles like my KTM 390 Duke. They seem to work quite well on light motorcycles and even come with radial mounting and wire-reinforced brake hoses.

Current motorcycle collection: 2002 Yamaha FZ1; 2020 KTM 390 Duke; 2011 Royal Enfield Bullet 500; 2009 BMW F650GS; 2016 BMW R1200RS; 2018 Zero S 16.6 kWh

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#20 | RE: Merged thread: bye bye Brembo datum

Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:03 pm

Zitat von Elmer J Fudd im Beitrag #1
From BMW UK Website, accessories section

Change to the brake system
Starting on 01/12/2020, the vehicle shown here is expected to be delivered with a brake system from another manufacturer (possibly with different appearance) instead of the Brembo brand brake system.

Interesting.....

It's strange that note does not show on the US site.

Lee
2016 R1200RS
Iowa, USA

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#21 | RE: Merged thread: bye bye Brembo datum

Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:29 pm

Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #20
Zitat von Elmer J Fudd im Beitrag #1
From BMW UK Website, accessories section

Change to the brake system
Starting on 01/12/2020, the vehicle shown here is expected to be delivered with a brake system from another manufacturer (possibly with different appearance) instead of the Brembo brand brake system.

Interesting.....

It's strange that note does not show on the US site.

But, the US site has a note..............European model shown

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#22 | RE: Merged thread: bye bye Brembo datum

Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:52 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brembo says Hayes is owned by Brembo. Hayes has a factory in Mexico, which is all you need to know really. $$$$$$$$$ all the way.

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#23 | RE: Merged thread: bye bye Brembo datum

Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:02 pm

Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #22
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brembo says Hayes is owned by Brembo. Hayes has a factory in Mexico, which is all you need to know really. $$$$$$$$$ all the way.

Hayes Lemmerz is different from Hayes Performance. The brakes come from Hayes Performance whose supplied Harley and other tractor companies for years.

Sadly, the products they've sold to BMW seem to be crap.

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#24 | RE: Merged thread: bye bye Brembo datum

Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:45 pm

Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #21

But, the US site has a note..............European model shown

Most of the time the US site will use European model pictures.

I would be surprised to see BMW put Hayes on UK bikes and Brembo on US bikes.

Lee
2016 R1200RS
Iowa, USA

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#25 | RE: Merged thread: bye bye Brembo datum

Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:55 pm

Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #23
Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #22
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brembo says Hayes is owned by Brembo. Hayes has a factory in Mexico, which is all you need to know really. $$$$$$$$$ all the way.

Hayes Lemmerz is different from Hayes Performance. The brakes come from Hayes Performance whose supplied Harley and other tractor companies for years.

Sadly, the products they've sold to BMW seem to be crap.

when not being incontinent they work well. The brakes were about the only thing on the new XR that really impressed me compared to my 2016 version.

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#26 | RE: Merged thread: bye bye Brembo datum

Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:31 pm

Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #25
Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #23
Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #22
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brembo says Hayes is owned by Brembo. Hayes has a factory in Mexico, which is all you need to know really. $$$$$$$$$ all the way.

Hayes Lemmerz is different from Hayes Performance. The brakes come from Hayes Performance whose supplied Harley and other tractor companies for years.

Sadly, the products they've sold to BMW seem to be crap.

when not being incontinent they work well. The brakes were about the only thing on the new XR that really impressed me compared to my 2016 version.

Being incontinent is an achievement in inverse Quality Control

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#27 | RE: Merged thread: bye bye Brembo datum

Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:01 pm

Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #24
Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #21

But, the US site has a note..............European model shown

Most of the time the US site will use European model pictures.

I would be surprised to see BMW put Hayes on UK bikes and Brembo on US bikes.

The German BMW MC website has the same note as the UK site. Whether Hayes is lower cost than Brembo, I don't know, but there's also chatter that a new source of calipers is coming for the RT/GS models.

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#28 | RE: Merged thread: bye bye Brembo datum

Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:28 pm

Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #27
Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #24
Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #21

But, the US site has a note..............European model shown

Most of the time the US site will use European model pictures.

I would be surprised to see BMW put Hayes on UK bikes and Brembo on US bikes.

The German BMW MC website has the same note as the UK site. Whether Hayes is lower cost than Brembo, I don't know, but there's also chatter that a new source of calipers is coming for the RT/GS models.

Ah, the favourite child gets preferential treatment yet again

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#29 | RE: Merged thread: bye bye Brembo datum

Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:08 pm

It's all about money. BMW wants to save some to increase its margin.

Maybe the next step will be ByBre the Indian cheep version of Brembo...works great on my 390 Duke...no leaks either

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#30 | RE: Merged thread: bye bye Brembo datum

Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:57 pm

Zitat von Vtbob im Beitrag #29
It's all about money. BMW wants to save some to increase its margin.

Maybe the next step will be ByBre the Indian cheep version of Brembo...works great on my 390 Duke...no leaks either

I guess they will tweet about it eventually

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