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Zitat von Freddyfruitbat im Beitrag #45Zitat von Freddyfruitbat im Beitrag #17 A keyless bike comes with 2 keyed devices. The main transponder which has a battery and a metal key that flips out. This goes in your pocket when you ride. The 2nd device is a plastic key that has a passive (no battery) transponder that needs to be held over the sensor to activate the bike. I would not want to use the plastic key in a lock. If you, like me, do not want to get they transponder out of your pocket to use the metal key then you need to buy a dumb metal key. You can get this from BMW or other sources. I used an online source and just emailed a photo of the metal key. The could create a key from the image. |
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Didn't order my RS with keyless, and don't miss it. I have managed to deal with a ignition key for 38 years of riding, never lost one or forgot it on the bike. Had a Kawasaki GTR/Concours 1400 and had less than plesent experience with the keyless on that bike a couple of times. (not working/getting stranded/unintensional discharge of battery). |
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#49 | RE: Keyless ride: yes/no? good/bad?
Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:44 pm (Last edited: Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:19 pm)
Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:44 pm (Last edited: Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:19 pm)
Zitat von Bacaruda im Beitrag #48 My engine wont start if the key is in the seat lock or paniers/top box barrel , very short range 1mtr < . Ged 2017 RS grey/white/red. |
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Zitat von Bacaruda im Beitrag #48 I’m with Bacaruda - traditional ignition keys are just perfect for the task, why fix what’s not broken ! |
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Zitat von Boxerboy im Beitrag #50 I’m with Bacaruda - traditional ignition keys are just perfect for the task, why fix what’s not broken ! [/quote] I will agree with not specifying keyless when the options of manual spark advance and the hand operated auxiliary oil pump are offered.
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Zitat von Bacaruda im Beitrag #48 I once lost the key for my F650GS, while at a electric vehicle event. It dropped out of my fingers and into the bike's chassis. I just couldn't find it anywhere. I had to borrow a scooter from a nice fellow that I just met, rode home, picked up my spare key, rode back to the event and was then able to start up my bike. About 5 miles into my ride back home, I heard a "tinkle". I stopped, turned around and found the key in the middle of the street, which I retrieved while dodging fast moving cars.  At least if that had happened with a keyless fob, my bike would have started right up and I could have ridden it home with the key stuck somewhere in the chassis.  On the other hand, the fob might not have survived a drop into an active traffic lane.
Current motorcycle collection: 2002 Yamaha FZ1; 2005 Triumph Bonneville T-100; 2011 Royal Enfield Bullet 500; 2009 BMW F650GS; 2016 BMW R1200RS; 2011 Zero S 16.6 kWh
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Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #53 Hi Richard, after seeing this post, I want to take back what I said on your post on weighing the RS, about not risking dropping your bike anymore. It looks like you are risk taker about some things. How about checking the weigh using three scales? Both wheels and the side stand? 
'16 R1200 RS
'17 KTM Super Duke 1290 R '19 Yamaha Tracer 900 GT |
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Well, I bought the keyless one from the dealer, and so far (two days in) I have to say I regret it! Zitat von boxter im Beitrag #49 I just checked this out to confirm, and was pretty horrified to discover the bike started no problem at all with the fob-key sitting in either the seat lock, or the top case lock. That seems absolutely awful to me - having once managed to leave my keys in the seat lock overnight in public I can well imagine managing to set off for a day's ride with my keys hanging of the back. I think I'll have to follow the example of somebody else up thread, and tether the keys and fob to my jacket so there's no chance of that happening. I assume this is normal behaviour for the fob, and Ged's just got a flat battery...!? Coupled with my other (minor) issue about my Givi tanklock bag no longer fitting, I'm really struggling to see any value in this system yet...
KC100->CB100N->CB250RS--------->DL650AL2->R1200RS
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Zitat von Freddyfruitbat im Beitrag #55 leave the smart fob in your jacket and get a dumb key cut for the locks my tanklock bag fits fine - Kappa (same company as Givi) RA308 - the base on mine can be moved into 4 different locations, can you adjust your's? |
#57 | RE: Keyless ride: yes/no? good/bad?
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:51 am (Last edited: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:53 am)
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:51 am (Last edited: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:53 am)
Zitat von Freddyfruitbat im Beitrag #55 The Givi tanklock is no problem with keyless ride for me and the value of leaving the key in your pocket has been almost universally recognized by 4 wheel vehicle owners for years. Kind of like push button electric windows ..... there will always be someone missing the crank.  Tom |
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Zitat von TPadden im Beitrag #57Zitat von Freddyfruitbat im Beitrag #55 Like me. My car has reliable crank windows and key locks. I can get into my car and roll the windows up and down even if someone steals my battery.
Current motorcycle collection: 2002 Yamaha FZ1; 2005 Triumph Bonneville T-100; 2011 Royal Enfield Bullet 500; 2009 BMW F650GS; 2016 BMW R1200RS; 2011 Zero S 16.6 kWh
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#59 | RE: Keyless ride: yes/no? good/bad?
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:29 am (Last edited: Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:32 am)
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:29 am (Last edited: Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:32 am)
Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #58 Another advantage: you could probably leave the car unlocked, windows rolled down, keys in the ignition, and still no one would steal your car. Especially since it probably has a standard transmission so no one knows how to drive it!  Tom |
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