suspension to firm , one possible fix . 2016 rs premium package

I was very unhappy with the stock suspension ( some of this was posted before on old website , sorry to repeat ) I am 140 lbs and bike was to stiff for me unless I had the factory bags on with gear , then It felt more comfortable , without gear and bags it rode way to hard and my back would hurt after long rides , I bought it used with low miles , it was not to bad but around 10 k it felt rather stiff , ( My last 2015 F700 gs the shock also felt good until around 12k and then shock started sticking same brand Marzocchi ) I do feel the front is a bit better and maybe ok for long term ,but not quite sure and I think that it may also improve with a upgrade . tuned to my weight. like the rear .
I did do a lot of looking at the non electronic front forks that come stock on the non premium package at the bmw motorad website and externally they are the same as ESA 2 just different internals ( A lot of different internal parts and they are costly )
As you may know if you unplug the ESA2 system rear shock and replace with non electronic shock the front shocks stop working , So only option I was told that was available was the Tractive swap !
They take your old shock apart and replace internals with A tractiive unit ,it uses the same spring and elastomer from your old unit ,cost 1,000 usd + installation ( I did install my self )
I tried it and was not happy . it road just as hard if not harder ,I then had old shock internals put back in reinstalled my original shock assembly
After many hours of looking at options , I decided to buy a rear disable unit from Touratech for GS models ( I figured they used same plug and software )
DISABLE UNIT FOR BMW DYNAMIC ESA WHEN USING TOURATECH EXTREME SHOCK,Part # 045-5879 240.00 usd
after installing this unit ,The front shock worked normally ( did not bounce like before with rear shock unplugged ) ( also the warning light stays off )( with out this the warning light flashes in the cluster ) the unit tells the computer the electronic shock is there .

With the touratech (made by tractive ) unit plugged in to where rear shock plugs in ,you then can install a aftermarket rear non electronic shock of your choice .
You will loose the elastomer electronic load adjustment .You can by a manual adjuster with a knob that does the same thing for a 200$ option on all the shocks now .
After spending way to many hour figuring this out and shopping I think wilbers is a very good choice . I had a 3 way wilbers on my F700gs . I liked it a lot.
I was about to buy a wilbers 3 way and give a try , but I felt with the short travel suspension design , the lack of wind protection ,and having to also upgrade the front shocks also before I would be totally happy .Maybe I did not want to start down that road and maybe still been unhappy ,also after 2-3 k of money spent that I would never get a return these parts if I sold it. I kind of realized I might be happier with some thing else because there was just to much I did not like about the RS along with my legs are a little to bent on this bike .
don't get me wrong I had a lot of fun for over a year and half and road the crap out of it and had a lot of good rides. It still is one of the most fun bikes I have owned and often road faster then I should on it.

I decided to try something different I bought a 2015 triumph xcx . This model comes with long travel suspension WP which is one if the best around , wow its so easy to ride steering is very light , plush ride ,no back pain and it soaks up bumpy roads and sitting on it is more up right.
Yes the Rs and xcx are two totally different bikes built for different uses , the xcx will leave the Rs is the dust on tight goat roads and dirt and the Rs will smoke the xcx on fast smooth slab . Both are very good at what they do best.
( and yes the RS has a new home ) I sold it a few months ago.
Next I want a Rt wet head with out the ESA 2 suspension , and I think it will fix everything the RS was missing for me.
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Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #2

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I had an Explorer XRx for a while as well as my RS. I agree the semi-active WP suspension is excellent, especially on uneven surfaces. I test rode the latest GS Rallye and I think the 2017 WP suspension is superior. The GS has adopted the self levelling preload on latest versions and it does not work as well as the WP version.

Ultimately, I could not get on with the Explorer's top heavy nature and the heat coming from the engine was unbearable in recent hot weather. Add this to a hip problem and I was not using the XRx much so it went.

I find the RS semi-active suspension very good but I am as heavy as you and your luggage at around 200lb. I found a nice 2016 S1000XR that has the factory lowered frame and semi-active suspension. I did try the Tiger 1050 and it is a nice bike but does not excite in the way the XR can.

You are on the 800 forum - is your bike the 800 or 1200 XCx?

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My bike is a 2015 tiger xcx it has About 2 inches longer travel then the models with out 21 inch spoke wheels , I did not want the 21 inch , but wanted the longer more plush wp suspension so I made my choice , and I have to say the 21 sticks pretty good with scorpions even being as skinny as it is. ( part of my problem is 4 years and 4 bikes . I love it when I first buy them and year later I have my eye on something else .


I can't keep up with my sport bike friends on the tiger 800 like I use to on my old RS but that's fine they wait for me , and I can ride all day and they are done in a hour or two.

I paid 17 k from dealer with 4k on it ,and sold it for 10 k after 1 year and a half , buying costly newer European bikes like cars are expensive if you don't own them long , I better start keeping my bikes a little longer , or buy some older models instead. ( but it was very dependable and that is the advantage with something almost new. )

the disable unit is on ebay

Werbung: https://www.ebay.com/itm/TOURATECH-disab...79/302845119087

what is a gs rally ? I have not heard of a rally in the USA ? maybe its an new model I have not heard about .l

I am at 165 lb and I am having the same problem. On bouncy bad roads I have to use all the force my legs can give to stay on the RS.
I am currently looking for a solution but I don't think that I want to get another bike :D

Eat more pies and drink plenty of Guiness, softens the suspension up nicely

I think I'll give the 644 WESA Wilber suspension a try during winter hiatus.

Zitat von Dirtbag im Beitrag #5

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what is a gs rally ? I have not heard of a rally in the USA ? maybe its an new model I have not heard about .l

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I love that Rallye ,but after having the esa 2 and learning the limitations if you want to make changes and the cost when things break ( I will pass ) that lean angle pitch I do not think is needed unless you are racing ,my RS never had it and traction control and abs always kicked in fine .(I wanted to add lean angle when it was new ,the dealer could add it but did not know much about how to install it so I passed on it and now glad I did. )
( clever self-levelling next generation ESA and improved the DTC. Previously you could change the damping on the move to soft, medium and hard but now the damping is adjusted automatically, adapting to your riding by reading numerous sensors such as lean angle, brake pressure, speed, pitch and more.)

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I have the TOURATECH disable unit for ESA 2 shocks Part # 045-5879 for any one that wants it 120 us plus shipping if you decide you want to upgrade rear with a non electronic shock . I used it once for testing only , and front shock works fine with this installed and no warning lights on dash .I was going to replace rear but I never did .
I sold my RS a few months ago.

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I bought a 2015 800 xcx It was a new model upgrade for 15 bought it used for a 9k with 12k on it. from the original owner . ( It sure would be nice to have the 1200 power ) but this 3cyl really revs and pulls at high rpm , so far it does pretty well when I ride with the ktm 1 liter + bikes And this really is a fun bike to ride and easy to control and I am sure the light weight helps . I just put a pirelli angel GT on rear and want to up gradet the front to more of a street tire , so far the 21 sticks pretty well with the pirelli scorpion 2.