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As I understand, there were some upgrades for the 2017 model year. One of them was a change in the diagnostic plug from a round configuration to the standard automotive OBD-II D shape. I think this was for Euro 4 compliance. Not sure if this applied to US bikes though. Here in South Africa we follow Euro spec. Euro 4 probably also dictated more stringent noise/emissions levels.
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Zitat von Steady Eddie im Beitrag #1 Yes to all you mention, plus change of colours |
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I had the 2015 RS and got a reasonable deal for the 2017. It does mean a different gearbox case/starter motor area changes and some 'in line damper device' for better gearchanges/transmission but as I had no problems with the 2015 gearbox I am not able to confirm improvement. |
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It’s really a small thing, but the Euro3 bikes (2015, 2016) allow Euro-approved aftermarket exhausts (Akrapovic, Remus, etc) with a removable dB killer. This probably only matters to track day riders...
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The changes in Euro 3 to 4 were primarily to appease the anti bike European Parliment who called for lower noise and emissions... and efficiency over performance, so exhausts are gererally more restirictive, as well as fuel tank breathing having a vent that goes through a filter, the gearboxes were altered to be smoother and quieter, I have ridden a 2015 euro 3 and own a 2017 euro 4 you will not notice much difference... the gearbox is slightly less clunky on the later bike.. cornering ABS is a step forward... a flashing brakelight on a motorway under hard braking might wake up,a dozy driver... |
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Zitat von JohnnyRockett im Beitrag #6 How dare they insist on legislation to reduce pollution and encourage efficiency innovation!?! At the expense of our liberty too, outrageous!
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They also wanted to implement legislation that would prevent you changing ANYTHING on your motorcycle from its original manufacturers specifications, including exhausts and tyres...Sat Nav Position, etc and roadside checks would impound your bike if it was found to be non compliant.... |
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Zitat von Blackshirt im Beitrag #5 Not sure where that comes from, you can change the exhaust on any bike. The Euro regulations apply to manufacturers making bikes and not to individual owners. There might be some places in the world where you are not allowed to change anything, but that is certainly not everywhere. In Germany you can only fit an approved part to your bike that meets certain approvals, they check when you have your annual technical inspection, known as the TUV. In the UK there is an annual MOT, but it is so vague that it is down to the tester to decide whether the bike is noisy or not, most testers would not know the exact parts fitted to every bike on the market. France is even better, we don't have any technical test on motorcycles. I fitted a nice zorst made by Dominator in Poland, it does say that it is EU type approved, so with the correct markings it should satisfy most markets, it even comes with the type approval certificate, for less than £200!
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Zitat von JohnnyRockett im Beitrag #8 Who are they?
2020 R1250RS, 2018 Ducati 939 Supersport, 2018 Ducati Monster 821, 1967 Ducati 250 mk3.
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Zitat von himoverthere im Beitrag #10Zitat von JohnnyRockett im Beitrag #8 Presumably Martin Bangemann and his followers in the European Commission who tried to put legislation before the European Parliament but it got knocked back long before it went to a vote. This all started in the 1990s https://www.politico.eu/article/commissi...ikes-backfires/ but people keep banging on about it like it was yesterday. As you will know, the French realised their stupidity going down this route, removed the 100bhp limit and binned the MOT equivalent. The proposed legislation mentioned above was more recent but was just some noisy fanatics with fanciful ideas. The rest of Europe ignored them but of course, the British press span it like it was actually something that would come into force. Whilst this bunch of anti-bikers seems to have less influence across the EU27 as a whole, sadly, some of Bangemann's disciples seem to have been elected onto the local governments in Germany and Austria where their anti-joy policies are being used to restrict motorcycle riding on specific roads. Some have noise limits, some banned bikes at weekends and some banned bikes full time. |
Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:40 pm (Last edited: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:42 pm)
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See what you are saying, but to put it into context. There have been thousands of studies and suggestions from the EU during the past 30 years and this is just one. Many of them resulted in nothing, just like this one. 2020 R1250RS, 2018 Ducati 939 Supersport, 2018 Ducati Monster 821, 1967 Ducati 250 mk3. |
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Zitat von Steady Eddie im Beitrag #1 Anti-judder damper was the most significant change. Read about changes here.
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Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:25 pm (Last edited: Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:07 am)
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Zitat von Steady Eddie im Beitrag #1 Yes, my USA 2018 has the D-shape OBD-II port.
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