R1200RS + R1250RS Forum
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Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:04 am (Last edited: Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:18 am)
Zitat von Blackshirt im Beitrag #8 ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! I won't go into a long post re my experience with advertisers/marketers in the aftermarket auto performance business...suffice to say, do not believe the claims of ANY company/magazine who is trying to sell you something. This applies regardless of what "tests" (dyno charts, endorsements by celebrities/spokesmen, etc.) they produce to "prove" their point. Helmets are no different. Remember , famous racers are not using a helmet because they like it best; they are using a helmet that gives the race team the best deal. So saying. "Joe GoFast uses a SuperMondoXYZ so it must be the best helmet ," is not a safe assumption. Also, of course, to be the "best helmet," one has to qualify that for the job at hand. Track use, Harley cruising, dirt riding, fast touring, etc would all probably require a different helmet to be "best" at each job. '16 R1200RS (Texas) |
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The 6 D employs interesting anti concussion technology. From my level of knowledge, other than 6D, little has changed in the last 20 years in helmet energy absorbing technology. Crushable closed cell foam!.. |
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Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #6Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #3 Now, that is interesting. I've had both brands and found a very similar fit. In line with that observation, a HJC distributor representative told me the HJC line was designed for the same head form as the Shoei. So, when I go helmet shopping, it's a comparison between Shoei and HJC. Does the higher priced Shoei offer fit and feature benefits that offsets the cost difference? Old Forum Orphan |
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Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #18Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #6Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #3 See above - I tend to buy older models on closeout but I gave some of the advantages of Shoei above - material seem more durable, you can get spares easily, even after the model has discontinued. IIRC both Shoei & Arai give a normal life of a helmet as 5 years and unless you are doing 50000 miles a year, you know they will last. With cheaper helmets, I was looking to replace after 2 years. I wouldn't trust the word of a distributor - they are sales people trying to reassure you their cheaper product is as good as the more expensive models so will take any opportunity to frame a sentence in a way that gives their brand a positive spin. Our heads are unique and there is some dimension in a HJC helmet that does not suit me - IIRC it was a sizing problem - I seemed to be inbetween 2 sizes and the sales person in my local Triumph dealer was not able to offer different size cheek pads like Shoei can. |
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IIRC, Snell certification was driving up the price of helmets here in the US. Manufacturers (particularly high-end makers like Arai and Shoei) were building helmets to meet that coveted cert, even though it was largely concerned with auto racing applications. As it turns out, a helmet strong enough to protect your head from striking a race car’s roll bar makes it transmit more energy to the wearer in typical motorcycle accidents. Therefore, for a time, staying away from helmets with a Snell Foundation cert was actually a good move from a safety standpoint. During this time, I discovered that some of the more affordable lines of helmets had really closed the gap on the expensive ones. I was able to get a helmet (The HJC IS-MAX II) that met my needs and my nominal comfort requirements for a price that would allow replacement at a sensible interval. The ventilation could be better and break-in took about ten-twelve hours, but functionally it is much better than the Arais or the Shoeis I used 15 years ago. Besides, helmets are only one part of the personal protective equipment a rider should employ. I spread out my safety budget and have upgraded all the armor in my jackets and pants to D30 CE-2 pads and I use armored gloves and boots that fit and protect as well as possible. I had a pretty serious accident back in ‘05 that taught me that my head is not the only body part that requires careful protection...
“I would rather be ashes than dust!" ~ Jack London
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Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #22 Below is The NY Times article that got Dexter Ford fired from Motorcyclist magazine. Draw your own conclusions... https://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/27/automobiles/27SNELL.html
“I would rather be ashes than dust!" ~ Jack London
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Wow...……..Arai and Shoei had this guy fired!! That's pretty impressive.
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Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #24 Why worry about helmets only … in addition to German cars we can slap tariffs on BMW motorcycles too ... Regards, |
Zitat von Grumpy Goat im Beitrag #25Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #24 Tariffs for everything! Higher material prices and lower quality is the path to being the best cheap labor we can be.
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Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #22 I started to read, then scan the info, before getting bored and giving up :) I thought Snell would not test modular helmets but I see they mentioned modular helmets in the testing procedures. Does Snell now test modular helmets?
Lee
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Zitat von gc141x im Beitrag #29 The RF1200 is called XR1100 in Europe. I'm assuming they are identical apart from the name and accreditation stickers. I have an XR1100 and could not find any HJC helmet a good fit - you may find the same... |
