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Hi all,

I have created all the routes for my roadtrip using Tyre to Travel and uploaded them to my Nav VI.

Viewing the routes on the PC shows them to all be good and as expected. Uploading them to the NAV and viewing day 1 (as in tomorrow) I see the attached.

Anyone seen this before and more importantly know how to fix it?

Tonight I will copy the route and split it into two to see if that fixes it, failing that I'll be buying one of those antiquated map thingies.

Over the years I've had loads of problems when transferring routes created elsewhere (gpx files and routes created on Garmin Mapsource) onto my GPS unit.

I have been through all the settings and it seems to be okay now.

Another option is to find the track and convert it to a route (or is it vice versa).

Peter

Fugly, that seems to be a graphic representation of your speed through this particular route. "Burning up the roads" as they say

I think Sanemancured is on to something - in that you may have designed/saved the route you wish to take as a track rather than a route. Certainly on the TomTom if you design a track it puts a waypoint (for want of a better word) at every minimal direction change and you are expected to hit each point, whereas a'route' is still a series of waypoints but they are at strategic points and allow the sat nav a degree of freedom to navigate between them - I hope that makes sense?

Perhaps I should add that it looks like your 'track' runs out of waypoints (there is a limit on TomTom forget what but say 250) before you get to your destination so then draws the straight line - where as a route might only be 20 to 30 way points to cover that same entire 'route'

Jason

I've just done a very quick test in Tyre (v8.0) and I had two points (start and finish) less than a mile apart. I saved it as a gpx file.

When I opened this same file in Tyre again it asked me if I wanted to open it as "Route Points" or "Route tracks",
Opened as Route Points retained just the two waypoints (start and finish)
Opened as Route Tracks and I get 94 waypoints for the same routes.

I can then save either in a TomTom propitiatory format (.itn) and the Tom Tom will eather have two way points or 94 depending on which .itn file I load

I hope this helps

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Hi Jason,

I am a) sure you are correct and b) convinced it's more down to aged operator error.

My longest route has about 26 way points which appears to be too many. I broke each route down into two routes and they all view fine on the twat-nav so fingers crossed.

If I've not reported in by 21:00 to say I have arrived and enjoying a cold Weissbier then send out a search party as I will have beaten the sodding thing to death and got myself thoroughly lost

Fingers crossed

Fugly you either got lost (last night) or got there and drunk enough weissbier to forgot to tell us you got there...

26 way points isn't that many, I do routes with 50+ for one day, but I'm using a TomTom and have never used a Garmin based device.

I've taken a look at the contents of the file that gets saved when using Tyre's Garmin GP Exchange file type (.gpx) - using a text editor (Notepad++ ignore this if it means nothing to you).

It is basically a text file formatted in a simple xml form (xml = eXtensible Markup Language, but again don't get hung up on the xml bit, it is basically just text) and it contains two sections:

The first section is a tagged <rte> (guess that means Route)
It has the Waypoints you set in tyre (in my example the start and end point) for you this would be the 26 points, each Waypoint is tagged as <rtept> lets call them Route Points

The second section is as a tagged as <trk> (guess that means Track)
It contains the multitude of points that define any change of 'direction' along the route, these are tagged as <trkpt> so lets call them Track Points.

In my example there are 2 Route Points (the start and end) and 94 Track Points of which the first and last are the same two points as my two Route Points.

To me this back up my theory from yesterday that a .gpx file produced from Tyre contains both a Route and a Track. What you need is the just Route to be imported.

Having never used a Garmin or BMW Navigator I have no idea how you 'import' or 'move' a .gpx file to the satnav, so I don't know if there is a way to tell the Garmin device that you want to import the Route Points (or Route) rather than the Track Points (or Track) from the .gpx file - it may be there is a 'global' setting in the satnav that say import Routes not Tracks or visa-versa, anyone else know?

Jason.

Hi Jason,

Didn't get lost and didn't get drunk (not sure if that's a win-win or win-lose) but couldn't get online last night.

Thanks for this, there is a track option in the apps section so will play with that once I am back, splitting the route down works so will continue in this manner. With Tyre I can only (I think) create waypoints not route points. I know this is something that basecamp allows you to do and I should persevere with it so will also have a go at playing with this again as well once I am back.